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Guzara
24th June 2009, 11:36 AM
Sharing by torrents is good when we have something big to share, but sharing fart clips (usually bunch of clips from 1 store) could really completely harm fart store, so I'm considering option to not allow torrents to be posted here.

it's better to share step by step slowly , because posting everything once could harm fart producers to close their store and to stop making future fart clips.

Let we see what other think.

yapyepyo
24th June 2009, 11:41 AM
It must be hard to vote no, because short-term free fart video's sound awesome. But in the long-term I think it can really do damage to the stores, I'm sure nobody wants to see stores going out of business. Consider it :)

Guzara
24th June 2009, 12:10 PM
I would like that torrents makers and seeders think about it , not just because of my forum and my ideas, (I know some of them will now turn new page ignoring my suggestion and post them on their blogs or other scat forums)

But in our almost 4 years of existence , we never used torrents on this forum, and we never said they are forbidden.
Also in rules we said, torrents are aloweed.

From the other side,even if we now forbidden posting torrents, that would not include posting torrents of stores which are already closed (ally, alice, peggy etc.) .

DANNYH
24th June 2009, 12:19 PM
persoaly i dont want torrents t all way too slow ful of viruses and megupload rapidshare etc is much better but i peronally wont use torrentss at all if you kept doing tht nowun would make clips anywaii so its your choicee ether post little files or none at all or this fetish is done imo

onlycash
24th June 2009, 01:29 PM
Well it's simple, you can have fun with RS and see how many movies get deleted minutes after you upload them or learn to use torrents.



The people who make the movies are not your friend. They are selling you something and they think your a fool for buying it.



It's like being in a bar and defending the whore on the block as a "good girl" to every other guy in the bar who knows she a girl who sells her ass for money. None of the girls or the pimps who pay them are anything other then that. She's not in this to be your friend she's in it to get your money.


If people here had a chance to get 100's of movies as often and as easy as they wanted this forum would stop being a joke. Every other post is someone asking "please re up that 2MB movie that RS just deleted again..."


Why would people want to cry all day for little re posts over and over again?


Torrents are the way everyone on the net has been sharing files of all sizes for years. Also you should know that small torrents are by far the easiest way to share small files, and you share faster to boot with no "re upping" over and over.


No one would be so foolish to be posting to RS if they had any idea what they where doing.


One more point everyone needs to remember is I posted a 1GB (82 clip) torrent today that well over 500 people all over the net have gotten to watch in the last 10 hours.


Where do you think I got the 82 files?

Why have you people been the last to see them?

How much longer do you want to be the last people to see them?



The files are out there and people are watching them, so maybe the question is why aren't you watching them?



If torrents are dead here so will this place in the end.


Whats the point?


Why don't you just ban every movie posted?


Oh because you think what your doing is better in some way?


lets grow up, or just turn the forum into a fan site for people who think your a fool.

If you live with the girl in the movie good for you.

Do I lust after the girls in the movies?

Damn right I do, but I don't think I'm here to make sure she makes money, if that's the way you feel good luck and have fun being her and her pimps fool.

yapyepyo
24th June 2009, 01:53 PM
False. You fail to see the point. In our monetary system we provide products or services to others, which will be bought if they can be used. All is good if people continue to supply things that others want to consume. This way you can enjoy farts, because most of these girls don't enjoy them like we do. If their incentive (money) is taken out of the picture they will most definetly stop making them.

There are alternatives to rapidshare, and as long as not everything is shared people will still buy clips from the shops, making sure they continue to make money.

I don't like how you speak about these women, and I don't agree with you that they think we are fools. When you walk in the bakery to buy a bread, the baker probably doesn't think you are a fool when you're walking out of there with the bread. It's just supply and demand. Your bad for growing up to be a twisted monkey loving the gas that comes out of girls their asses (and oooh yes that includes me buddy ::great)

onlycash
24th June 2009, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by yapyepyo
False. You fail to see the point. In our monetary system we provide products or services to others, which will be bought if they can be used. All is good if people continue to supply things that others want to consume. This way you can enjoy farts, because most of these girls don't enjoy them like we do. If their incentive (money) is taken out of the picture they will most definetly stop making them.

There are alternatives to rapidshare, and as long as not everything is shared people will still buy clips from the shops, making sure they continue to make money.

I don't like how you speak about these women, and I don't agree with you that they think we are fools. When you walk in the bakery to buy a bread, the baker probably doesn't think you are a fool when you're walking out of there with the bread. It's just supply and demand. Your bad for growing up to be a twisted monkey loving the gas that comes out of girls their asses (and oooh yes that includes me buddy ::great)




Ok, when did anyone say YOU should stop buying clips? Go ahead and buy away.



Next, I guess you go into a strip club and think that girl giving you a lap dance really really likes you.



YOUR A FOOL AND SHE THINKS YOU ARE!



If you told me you never ever download a movie unless you paid for it then you have the right to talk that way.


But if you have downloaded even one movie without paying you are a hypocrite and should by your own rules send the girl in your stolen clip a money order right now!


So go one and answer the hard question, are you a hypocrite?

Super_Fart
24th June 2009, 02:51 PM
Only reason torrents are being used is because it's the only way people can upload GGG clips without it lasting for the fraction of a nanosecond.

I don't mind using torrents but they take frigging ages, a clip I started downloading yesterday still has 9 hours to go -.-

I never was one to preach about how piracy causes stores to close and models to quit but I think the admins should keep a close eye on torrents.

Cause one or two old clips are ok but posting 100 clips at once from one site is over the top to be honest.

onlycash
24th June 2009, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Super_Fart
Only reason torrents are being used is because it's the only way people can upload GGG clips without it lasting for the fraction of a nanosecond.

I don't mind using torrents but they take frigging ages, a clip I started downloading yesterday still has 9 hours to go -.-

I never was one to preach about how piracy causes stores to close and models to quit but I think the admins should keep a close eye on torrents.

Cause one or two old clips are ok but posting 100 clips at once from one site is over the top to be honest.




I should ask what torrent is taking you 9 hours to download?


The 1GB torrent I posted takes at most about 2 hours for anyone with broadband.


Nothing like 9 hours unless you have no download speed or are being limited by the tracker because you are not giving back.


People with good ratios can get over 500K download speeds often and in many cases over 1MB speeds.

DesLugath
24th June 2009, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by onlycash
Well it's simple, you can have fun with RS and see how many movies get deleted minutes after you upload them or learn to use torrents.



The people who make the movies are not your friend. They are selling you something and they think your a fool for buying it.



It's like being in a bar and defending the whore on the block as a "good girl" to every other guy in the bar who knows she a girl who sells her ass for money. None of the girls or the pimps who pay them are anything other then that. She's not in this to be your friend she's in it to get your money.


If people here had a chance to get 100's of movies as often and as easy as they wanted this forum would stop being a joke. Every other post is someone asking "please re up that 2MB movie that RS just deleted again..."


Why would people want to cry all day for little re posts over and over again?


Torrents are the way everyone on the net has been sharing files of all sizes for years. Also you should know that small torrents are by far the easiest way to share small files, and you share faster to boot with no "re upping" over and over.


No one would be so foolish to be posting to RS if they had any idea what they where doing.


One more point everyone needs to remember is I posted a 1GB (82 clip) torrent today that well over 500 people all over the net have gotten to watch in the last 10 hours.


Where do you think I got the 82 files?

Why have you people been the last to see them?

How much longer do you want to be the last people to see them?



The files are out there and people are watching them, so maybe the question is why aren't you watching them?



If torrents are dead here so will this place in the end.


Whats the point?


Why don't you just ban every movie posted?


Oh because you think what your doing is better in some way?


lets grow up, or just turn the forum into a fan site for people who think your a fool.

If you live with the girl in the movie good for you.

Do I lust after the girls in the movies?

Damn right I do, but I don't think I'm here to make sure she makes money, if that's the way you feel good luck and have fun being her and her pimps fool.

I say yes if the majority wants to use them but i could care less either way it goes. Onlycash you have a valid point about people crying for reups but you do realize that those cries will change to "SEEEEEEEDDD!!!11! This torrent is soooo sloooooww seeeed!" if we were to switch over to torrents.Most people have problems with firewalls and portforwarding so they can't get the best speeds from torrents. It is only a choice between two evils. If you haven't noticed most of the people here leech and those torrents would soon be dead just like the filehosts. In some ways filehosting is better and some ways its not.Obviously you think what you're doing is better but torrents are not perfect either. Whether we use torrents or filehosting sites does not change what kind of forum this is.Also the people who make the content are not our friends but i am sure people don't care what the producers think about them because we are probably a grain of dirt in their asses as well. This forum will not die because it was fine without torrents and can continue without them. I do think that we should stop being "on the fence" about certain stuff and accept what we do and what kind of forum this is:We are what we are.

onlycash
24th June 2009, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Destrega

Originally posted by onlycash
Well it's simple, you can have fun with RS and see how many movies get deleted minutes after you upload them or learn to use torrents.



The people who make the movies are not your friend. They are selling you something and they think your a fool for buying it.



It's like being in a bar and defending the whore on the block as a "good girl" to every other guy in the bar who knows she a girl who sells her ass for money. None of the girls or the pimps who pay them are anything other then that. She's not in this to be your friend she's in it to get your money.


If people here had a chance to get 100's of movies as often and as easy as they wanted this forum would stop being a joke. Every other post is someone asking "please re up that 2MB movie that RS just deleted again..."


Why would people want to cry all day for little re posts over and over again?


Torrents are the way everyone on the net has been sharing files of all sizes for years. Also you should know that small torrents are by far the easiest way to share small files, and you share faster to boot with no "re upping" over and over.


No one would be so foolish to be posting to RS if they had any idea what they where doing.


One more point everyone needs to remember is I posted a 1GB (82 clip) torrent today that well over 500 people all over the net have gotten to watch in the last 10 hours.


Where do you think I got the 82 files?

Why have you people been the last to see them?

How much longer do you want to be the last people to see them?



The files are out there and people are watching them, so maybe the question is why aren't you watching them?



If torrents are dead here so will this place in the end.


Whats the point?


Why don't you just ban every movie posted?


Oh because you think what your doing is better in some way?


lets grow up, or just turn the forum into a fan site for people who think your a fool.

If you live with the girl in the movie good for you.

Do I lust after the girls in the movies?

Damn right I do, but I don't think I'm here to make sure she makes money, if that's the way you feel good luck and have fun being her and her pimps fool.

I say yes if the majority wants to use them but i could care less either way it goes. Onlycash you have a valid point about people crying for reups but you do realize that those cries will change to "SEEEEEEEDDD!!!11! This torrent is soooo sloooooww seeeed!" if we were to switch over to torrents.Most people have problems with firewalls and portforwarding so they can't get the best speeds from torrents. It is only a choice between two evils. If you haven't noticed most of the people here leech and those torrents would soon be dead just like the filehosts. In some ways filehosting is better and some ways its not.Obviously you think what you're doing is better but torrents are not perfect either. Whether we use torrents or filehosting sites does not change what kind of forum this is.Also the people who make the content are not our friends but i am sure people don't care what the producers think about them because we are probably a grain of dirt in their asses as well. This forum will not die because it was fine without torrents and can continue without them. I do think that we should stop being "on the fence" about certain stuff and accept what we do and what kind of forum this is:We are what we are.





You make many very good points.



One good thing about torrents is they help to stop leeching. Because if you can't keep a good ratio the tracker will limit you, but if you learn to share you will see great speeds and the burden will be on the downloader not the uploader.

Yes some may ask for seedddd!!!!

But as long as the uploader seeds to a 10 times ratio most torrents will be seeded well for weeks, some even years.

Nothing is perfect but people should be useing the tools to make the job work better.


PS: You are so right when you said "we are what we are."

Mudofale
24th June 2009, 03:42 PM
I mean i agree with everyone but that baker bit made no sense im sorry bakers make there bread with love and care they don't spit on it and through it in the oven at 9000000 degrees and say wtf is taking you so long you stupid ass cunt. Sorry had to point that out. I think torrents are alright for certin clips I think if we limit the torrenting to like X amount of times per day or X amount of times per week that would cut down on the impact. It's kinda like global warming once it starts you can't really stop it only slow it down or try to come up with a way to live around it =/

smitti
24th June 2009, 03:57 PM
um... i figga that timing iz everything. and az long az u dont overdo tha tiorrent usage, it'll be ok to use it sparingly. also realize there are tons of muthafuckaz dat dont even kno this site exists, or just plain dont use sites like this(for a variety of reasons) and use the paysites - just like how u got people dat burn otha peoples music, and u got tha ones that take time to buy tha cd/mp3s...

Mudofale
24th June 2009, 04:02 PM
well CD's are advertised on TV and news add's thats diffrent lol but i still don't think it will make a big impact unless they upload 1gig files all over the place then well have a problem D: if anything maybe torrent re uploads or somethin to cut down on the overload of new videos being sprayed out.

smitti
24th June 2009, 04:14 PM
there is no difference. u got fuckin billions of songs online"illegaly", plus u got people tryina rise to stardom via underground "mixtapes", local conventions - fuck dat american idol bullshit - dat shit wuz recent. and az far az utha advertisement, dat only got better wit technology. and we advertise wut we du thru here. utha peoples shit comes thru here just like videos and music do on myspace, youtube, etc....

Mudofale
24th June 2009, 05:06 PM
ok you can't really compare music to this cause music lifts people up it fits them it becomes you it's apart of our everyday lives this isn't so much advertised so it's less popular and plus the *illegal songs* don't even make a big impact cause people use itunes more then anything and they make tons off it plus advertisers pay them to put there stuff in there videos or make a commerical for em etc etc Lets see Lizzy, or Brittany Moore, or Emma or somebody try and make a commercial about farting they'll get laughed off the face of the earth =/ i don't really kno where im goin with this and quiet frankly don't even kno who im talkin to anymore so im just gonna stop in the middle of this sen...

tetsuo
24th June 2009, 06:03 PM
Torrents should only be used for a very large collection of files, and even than they should not be posted as frequently as other clips. I am going to stop sharing GGG clips because I believe that enough has been shared already. Torrents should definitely not be used for every little clip posted. But for large files, like FTC videos, a torrent would be a good idea. Looks like I opened a huge can of worms with this torrent idea. Did not think people would go so crazy with it.

smitti
24th June 2009, 06:43 PM
um...*sigh* - ok, dear mudofale, when u remove all emotional value and individual perceptions of music, movies, clips, porn, or wutever... u get a hustle. frst of all, not everyone uses itunes, cuz if that were tru, there wouldnt be much advertising for it, ok? who gives a fuck about wut people feel at this moment? all we are doing on this webpage, is sharing... people from different sites are catching feelings about people sharing thier files on this site - same as people were catching feelings about music and movies and the like being aquired by the same means. and Gassy iz tryinna make sure that there is a BALANCE of sharing and profit making. all i sed wuz that timing is everything. it can make or break this and/or other websites. im comparing the method, not emotions. people are tryinna make money off of us. erybody always tryinna make sumthin big outta sumthin small... on a fuckin fetish site at that. this aint c-span, dammit. so just drop tha issue, cuz we both made our oppinions, and i backed myself up from ur comment on my comment.


all im sayin Gassy, iz that az administrator, u gotta balance it out cuz if u give people an inch, sumbody iz gonna mess it up for erybody else, sumtiime in the future. it never fails. we dont need u sued or anything so... im not sayin itll neccessarily happen now, but u always gotta be mindful of that, just in case.


im DONE SON!!!!!

ranrav
24th June 2009, 07:31 PM
I think this simply needs moderation (hence the moderators) to keep it from being counter-productive. Posting shedloads of GGG clips at once may end up being counter-productive in the long run (although he's gone on record as saying he's going to continue making the clips anyway, and his sites are, in my view, too expensive) but some every now and then won't harm anyone.

I think something that's been missed is that for most people leeching off the files, they simply wouldn't buy clips anyway, for varying reasons. The clips stores are not losing money from these people, they're just having people who haven't paid watching their clips. Which grates of course, I do get that, but just as bigdawg is being selfish spreading good clips over three sites (meaning you have to spend $105 a month or so to get all of them, unless there's some multi-membership deal, and even then it's very expensive), I'm going to have to be a little selfish and say that I'd like to see those clips shared from time to time.

If it was the case that most clips being made by most producers were being made available for free, then that would lead to the end of things, or at least a step backwards as they'd likely stop bothering. But if some clips are being made available (as has been the case for plenty of time, to no fanfare) then that doesn't seem to be much of a problem. The people who want the newest and the best clips end up buying them, and those who don't want to have to wait for dribs and drabs to become available.

There's no point banning torrents from here in principle. As has already been made plain above, the people sharing will share anyway, and those links will pop up elsewhere, and people will end up going there instead of here. Why split people apart in this way? Surely better to allow torrents here and moderate them, because then even if those posting unnecessary torrents post them elsewhere, the rest of the community here will be less likely to follow them to that elsewhere place.

Voting to ban torrents is just voting to make this into a problem.

Mudofale
24th June 2009, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by smitti
um...*sigh* - ok, dear mudofale, when u remove all emotional value and individual perceptions of music, movies, clips, porn, or wutever... u get a hustle. frst of all, not everyone uses itunes, cuz if that were tru, there wouldnt be much advertising for it, ok? who gives a fuck about wut people feel at this moment? all we are doing on this webpage, is sharing... people from different sites are catching feelings about people sharing thier files on this site - same as people were catching feelings about music and movies and the like being aquired by the same means. and Gassy iz tryinna make sure that there is a BALANCE of sharing and profit making. all i sed wuz that timing is everything. it can make or break this and/or other websites. im comparing the method, not emotions. people are tryinna make money off of us. erybody always tryinna make sumthin big outta sumthin small... on a fuckin fetish site at that. this aint c-span, dammit. so just drop tha issue, cuz we both made our oppinions, and i backed myself up from ur comment on my comment.


all im sayin Gassy, iz that az administrator, u gotta balance it out cuz if u give people an inch, sumbody iz gonna mess it up for erybody else, sumtiime in the future. it never fails. we dont need u sued or anything so... im not sayin itll neccessarily happen now, but u always gotta be mindful of that, just in case.


im DONE SON!!!!!

First of all, why are you getting so defensive and secondly I wasn't directing anything at, you read my first post wrong aparently cause i was saying that we SHOULD LIMIT IT, then you startin gettin mad at me for nothin i didn't do shit and aparently you didn't read my other one very well because companies Advertise for new products and if there lossing buisness but that doesn't have jack shit to do with this cause they are largely public advertisers. My point being is we should keep down the torrenting of new shet maybe older stuff like re uploads or large fills like mfx movies and such *cause we all kno those videos are gigantic sometimes* anyway hope I didn't step on anyones toes cause i wasn't directing anything at anyone that and I don't feel like dealing with shit right now i got enough going on in my life don't need more Drama to kill me X.x

yapyepyo
24th June 2009, 09:46 PM
Ok I don't like where this thread is going, just try to shortly say what you think without trying to convince others of your point of view.


Originally posted by onlycash
So go one and answer the hard question, are you a hypocrite?

I don't usually participate in these but no, I'm just a sucker for girl farts. I have spent a good amount of money on them already, but also downloaded many many more then I paid for. I'll just use my bakery example again. If it gets robbed 4 times a day, and the robbers each take a bread, then that's an acceptable loss, the bakery will still be making money. If they come in and take every bread there is, the bakery won't make any more money and will go bankrupt. Obviously robbing is bad period, but I think taking a few breads is better then taking it all. If that makes me a hypocrite then I am :). If you I'm way off, you can go ahead and continue this in PM.

tetsuo
24th June 2009, 11:20 PM
There is no reason you guys should be arguing it is simple, and I don't think onlycash gets it. Sharing hundreds of clips from one site just is not fair. Like I said before torrents should be for files that are too large to upload onto Rapidshare and Megaupload (FTC videos are a good example). I think Gassy and the staff should make sure that a fair amount of sharing takes place, and not too much out of respect for the stores we get them from. Remember if it wasn't for them we'd have nothing to share, so let's try to be fair about this. Torrents are a double edged sword. We should only use them when extremely necessary.

Mudofale
25th June 2009, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by yapyepyo
Ok I don't like where this thread is going, just try to shortly say what you think without trying to convince others of your point of view.


Originally posted by onlycash
So go one and answer the hard question, are you a hypocrite?

I don't usually participate in these but no, I'm just a sucker for girl farts. I have spent a good amount of money on them already, but also downloaded many many more then I paid for. I'll just use my bakery example again. If it gets robbed 4 times a day, and the robbers each take a bread, then that's an acceptable loss, the bakery will still be making money. If they come in and take every bread there is, the bakery won't make any more money and will go bankrupt. Obviously robbing is bad period, but I think taking a few breads is better then taking it all. If that makes me a hypocrite then I am :). If you I'm way off, you can go ahead and continue this in PM.

good to hear a hear your opion your bakery example makes more sense lol except were not really stealing them it's more like someone guys bread from a store and gives it out to a large crowd so they don't have to. hmm ooo beter example someone buys the recipe for somethin lets say the Coca Cola formula and they decide to share it then it spreads around and Coca Cola loses buisness because everyone knows how they make and can do it the same maybe even beter. I think i hit the nail on the head with this one i feel proud :D


p.s. sorry if you thought i was "arguing" i wasn't just strongly stating my opinion

smitti
25th June 2009, 04:29 AM
sorri playa. i thawt u were tryinna steer the conversation sumwhere else like it usually happens on here. i did misnterpret ur comment. i just git tired of the bullshit dat normally happens on here, and thawt it wuz happenin' 2 me. ur good, man.

Flexxx
25th June 2009, 05:50 AM
I voted yes...

Though I don't think that people should people should torrent a whole sites worth of stuff, this will help keep the sites from removing the stuff and it will help keep people form having to "reup" every couple of hours or days.

Torrents can easily have viruses in them... but so can any download you have. As long as you understand torrents, you'll be fine.

For small links (1 or 2 clips), they should just be downloadable. For larger or more clips (10ish or more), torrents are the way to go.

Mudofale
25th June 2009, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by smitti
sorri playa. i thawt u were tryinna steer the conversation sumwhere else like it usually happens on here. i did misnterpret ur comment. i just git tired of the bullshit dat normally happens on here, and thawt it wuz happenin' 2 me. ur good, man.

it's all good man we musta read each other wrong cause he both agreed on the same things in a way lol

workshop67
25th June 2009, 06:56 AM
i think the clips shud be 9 months older b4 we share. what u guys think?
So if you want it now...buy them today
if u wanna load....wait more than 9 mo

fartman89
25th June 2009, 07:19 AM
I think we should allow torrents, but not necessarily switch over to them as the new mandatory way to share files. This is a SHARING VOLUNTEER forum, lets let the posters choose which way they want to share their material. Each person who wants to share with the board can do so in whatever way they deem is best. Its that simple. Y'all should stop squabbling right now about opinionated bullshet like who's way is better and all this pushing and shoving new ways upon the forum members, its all relative, and most of it is opinion. Let it be.

PS one thing that bothered me slightly....onlycash: There is a difference between YOUR and YOU'RE.

fartman89
25th June 2009, 07:22 AM
Though, I can't really be pushing grammar issues when we have smitti here lol

afangorn
25th June 2009, 09:10 AM
really dont recommend it. its too easy for someone to upload a virus and label it as "sexy fart porn" or something as a joke. its not like we get much good representation on popular places like youtube.
I know I used to upload mislabeled videos to Kazaa back in the day for a joke, I dont doubt others would do the same with torrents.

1313Jr.1313
25th June 2009, 10:37 AM
everybody has their own opinion on this, but i think ranrav hit the nail on the head here.


Originally posted by ranrav
I think this simply needs moderation (hence the moderators) to keep it from being counter-productive. Posting shedloads of GGG clips at once may end up being counter-productive in the long run (although he's gone on record as saying he's going to continue making the clips anyway, and his sites are, in my view, too expensive) but some every now and then won't harm anyone.

I think something that's been missed is that for most people leeching off the files, they simply wouldn't buy clips anyway, for varying reasons. The clips stores are not losing money from these people, they're just having people who haven't paid watching their clips. Which grates of course, I do get that, but just as bigdawg is being selfish spreading good clips over three sites (meaning you have to spend $105 a month or so to get all of them, unless there's some multi-membership deal, and even then it's very expensive), I'm going to have to be a little selfish and say that I'd like to see those clips shared from time to time.

If it was the case that most clips being made by most producers were being made available for free, then that would lead to the end of things, or at least a step backwards as they'd likely stop bothering. But if some clips are being made available (as has been the case for plenty of time, to no fanfare) then that doesn't seem to be much of a problem. The people who want the newest and the best clips end up buying them, and those who don't want to have to wait for dribs and drabs to become available.

There's no point banning torrents from here in principle. As has already been made plain above, the people sharing will share anyway, and those links will pop up elsewhere, and people will end up going there instead of here. Why split people apart in this way? Surely better to allow torrents here and moderate them, because then even if those posting unnecessary torrents post them elsewhere, the rest of the community here will be less likely to follow them to that elsewhere place.

Voting to ban torrents is just voting to make this into a problem.

the way i figure it, the webmasters have always had the option of checking this board and doing the work to have the uploading sites take down their vids and they are rewarded for actually keeping track of what's going on in the other parts of the community while simultaneously keeping the users of the board safe due to us not actually hosting the content. going to torrents puts the users in danger, goes around webmasters and no longer gives them any incentive to contribute to the community, and would sort of shrink the active portion of this community. yapyep (i believe) said that it would turn the "reup" posts into "seed" posts and it would make the clips much more short lived. if you want to seed 50 different torrents 24 hours a day then more power to you, but the majority of the board WON'T and shouldn't be expected to. uploading to a site takes an hour; seeding takes days. i vote that torrents are fine for large videos (in the gbs) and old archives, but are not fair to use for newer clips.

Mudofale
25th June 2009, 03:47 PM
I think we all agree that old files and large files bigger then 200mb's should be torrent if nescceary and so on but i think we get the drill *will the court stand* Do we all agree to abide by these rules?

tetsuo
25th June 2009, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by afangorn
really dont recommend it. its too easy for someone to upload a virus and label it as "sexy fart porn" or something as a joke. its not like we get much good representation on popular places like youtube.
I know I used to upload mislabeled videos to Kazaa back in the day for a joke, I dont doubt others would do the same with torrents.

Anyone with common sense wouldn't download that file anyway. Just by the name, and the filesize I am sure most people here would just pass over it. You could also do the same with any file hosting website, it hasn't happened yet, so why should it happen now?

Anyway, we pretty much share the same opinion about torrents, so hopefully things can start going back to normal.

Super_Fart
26th June 2009, 12:45 AM
hey Onlycash I think that's the file I am downloading, I assume it's taking a long time because my connection is pretty effing poor.

Avaton
26th June 2009, 08:29 AM
Torrents is the future, no need for premium or anything.
I have a forum of sharing hosters and i have a torrent tracker also.
The tracker builded up as twice as large in members community in half the time then the sharing forum (like the present one we are now)
Maybe...evryone is entitled of his opinion...but numbers speek for themselves...

To come to the admins question now, i always wondered why the fart productions are so delicate....at the end of the day they are fetish productions
like scat, vomit etch (the fact we like farts more means nothing to the producers)
As for seeding fart productions...i would not bother to post 2-3 fart clips ever...its waste of time ( i ruther upload them to RS).
Torrents are for files over 300-400 mb.
Also let the numbers answer our questions: There were never so many fetish forums around, and at the same time so many producers....if that says anything to all of us....
Every week i discover another fetish forum, and another producer (either clips sites or members site)
Conclusion:
Competition does good to everyone......

fartsucker123
26th June 2009, 04:19 PM
www.ghacks.net/.../tired-of-fake-torrents-block-the-sources/

xkerriganx
26th June 2009, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Avaton
Torrents is the future, no need for premium or anything.
I have a forum of sharing hosters and i have a torrent tracker also.
The tracker builded up as twice as large in members community in half the time then the sharing forum (like the present one we are now)
Maybe...evryone is entitled of his opinion...but numbers speek for themselves...

To come to the admins question now, i always wondered why the fart productions are so delicate....at the end of the day they are fetish productions
like scat, vomit etch (the fact we like farts more means nothing to the producers)
As for seeding fart productions...i would not bother to post 2-3 fart clips ever...its waste of time ( i ruther upload them to RS).
Torrents are for files over 300-400 mb.
Also let the numbers answer our questions: There were never so many fetish forums around, and at the same time so many producers....if that says anything to all of us....
Every week i discover another fetish forum, and another producer (either clips sites or members site)
Conclusion:
Competition does good to everyone......

Here are my two cents on the topic: torrents have their uses, but the majority of people do the same thing that they do on services such as Limewire or the Gnutella Network, which is leach. The download it and then don't make it available for others. I personally refuse to use torrents, as they do have tendencies to have trojans, false filenames, and more importantly, ridiculously slow downtimes. I know that there are a few reputable uploaders, but the problem is the lack of seeders.
My solution is as such: get a Premium account to Rapidshare, or Megaupload. I have a 15 megabit cable connection in which I can download a 700 megabyte file in a matter of minutes, not hours. A 60 megabyte file on rapidshare, for me, takes less than a minute to download. I realize that most people don't want to spend the money on anything, let alone a file hosting service. It doesn't matter if you put a torrent up of every fart clip you all own, because the majority of this community will much rather piss and moan about the download speed, than do something about it.

Mudofale
27th June 2009, 03:02 AM
Originally posted by Avaton
Here are my two cents on the topic: torrents have their uses, but the majority of people do the same thing that they do on services such as Limewire or the Gnutella Network, which is leach. The download it and then don't make it available for others. I personally refuse to use torrents, as they do have tendencies to have trojans, false filenames, and more importantly, ridiculously slow downtimes. I know that there are a few reputable uploaders, but the problem is the lack of seeders.
My solution is as such: get a Premium account to Rapidshare, or Megaupload. I have a 15 megabit cable connection in which I can download a 700 megabyte file in a matter of minutes, not hours. A 60 megabyte file on rapidshare, for me, takes less than a minute to download. I realize that most people don't want to spend the money on anything, let alone a file hosting service. It doesn't matter if you put a torrent up of every fart clip you all own, because the majority of this community will much rather piss and moan about the download speed, than do something about it.


Amen man just... Amen in the end it's about the same because if we use torrents or just stick the same it'll be one or the other people asking for seeding or asking for a reup how about we all just have public meetings and exchange videos on external hard drives, o wait then people are gonna say *i missed the meeting can someone send me the videos* or *this video didn't send can you give me it again* DAM IT lets find a fool proof way =/ shit it's a paradox everything has a downside or someway for someone to complain

Avaton
27th June 2009, 01:31 PM
I agree in some matters about the availability (very rare).
You have to know the following about torrent communitys:
There are posters and there seeders.
me for example i never seed the titles i download, i just post new titles to keep my ratio way over 2,0.
On the other hand they are people they dont have content to share so they keep on seeding the titles they downloaded for days ( in our torrent language they work like seedbox accounts.)
Posters and seeders is what torrent trackers need.
Leechers is what they dont need...lol
I have enforced many ip blocks for dupe accounts, and other solutions to direct people to go the right way and have a good ratio.
At the end of the day balance is what is all about.
Take that place for example : Porn/fetish/fart
Even for that small subcategory of porn the need of balance is a must.
As for the speeds of the torrents, there are 3-4 factors that determinate that.
You can have a 1 gb title on your desktop in less than 30 mins...or in a week....
Actualy i think its the way you schedule your uploads and downloads (as we all belong to the freeshare comunity...also)

neroangelus
27th June 2009, 05:24 PM
I for one can't use torrents my computor can not handel them and I would be left out of farts from this formus since i wouldn't be able to access them. I'd probally jsut leave Gassyerotica at that point then since I love coming to this formus since people allow access for everyone.